tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post5543965107590947981..comments2023-06-03T22:01:23.655-07:00Comments on ILLUSTRATED HISTORY: RELIVE THE TIMES: Images Of War, History , WW2: GERMAN WOMEN RAPED AT END OF WW2Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-21339321509673841082016-09-27T16:05:55.494-07:002016-09-27T16:05:55.494-07:00What a load of crap! Beaver or whatever his name w...What a load of crap! Beaver or whatever his name was, had it for the Russians for the personal reasons and went apeshit every time the Russians were mentioned. I suspect it was something personal along the Lenin-Trotsky-Stalin line. The evidence presented are anecdotal at best and the main source for all this nonsense comes from a single source by one girl 10(Ten) years of age at the time) and amplified unreasonably over the years. The Cold War were coming, you see and one must be prepared on all fronds. So chill on all fronts. Jeep yourselves sane Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07409968459058895620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-11316312713508249222016-07-26T05:44:57.693-07:002016-07-26T05:44:57.693-07:00Stepford-On-Hudson : well, The Germans were under ...Stepford-On-Hudson : well, The Germans were under orders to not rape in WEST..in east it was VERY different. So, you are just telling bullshit and I am sure the German researchers KNOWS more than you about these thingsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-54168460995300770522016-07-26T05:41:55.703-07:002016-07-26T05:41:55.703-07:00Souvik Das : its very pathetic to not mention all ...Souvik Das : its very pathetic to not mention all raped women, so, why did you not mention the Sovjet women who was raped ? Are German women more worth than Sovjet women ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-45702116790396036382016-06-22T05:56:33.820-07:002016-06-22T05:56:33.820-07:00I was able to find good advice from your blog post...I was able to find good advice from your blog posts. <br /> <a href="http://russiantruckdrivingschool.com/index.php?page=kursy" rel="nofollow">как сдать на cdl</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11720434068467072111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-63994908884521869192016-03-21T07:01:45.379-07:002016-03-21T07:01:45.379-07:00Pathetic ... rape against rape can't be simple...Pathetic ... rape against rape can't be simple "eye for an eye" ... seriously think the role of women and girls in a war ??? feeling depressed and sorry for every women Souvik Dashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09154958398600853483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-11210948533322411832016-02-28T09:03:45.146-08:002016-02-28T09:03:45.146-08:00Well, how many Sovjet woman was raped by the Germa...Well, how many Sovjet woman was raped by the German`s ? According to German historian`s , the German`s raped around 10 000 000 Sovjet woman with one million born children as result...I wonder why this is not mentioned ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-49522940055918176982016-02-15T07:08:45.753-08:002016-02-15T07:08:45.753-08:00My grandmother's village was under both Nazi a...My grandmother's village was under both Nazi and Soviet control. She was almost shot by Russians in her native Romanian village, she escaped by running in the garden. The Russians were starved and left on their own devices by their army which made them wild and savage. They were being encouraged to pillage from civilians in order to survive, and when they killed civilians at random while being drunk (which they often did), they were never punished. Those who didnt want to fight anymore were being shot by their own NKVD agents. <br /><br />When you're being treated like this by your own, how can you have any humanity left for strangers? <br /><br />By the end of the war the Germans were also drained and exhausted. Food and army supplies didnt get to them anymore and they were totally overwhelmed with the much bigger Soviet army. Our peasants used to give them food and boots because many of the German boys were barefoot and their feet were frozen. Most of the German soldiers left were just boys... <br /><br />When the Soviets came, all the captured Germans were executed (my grandmother witnessed it) and the Romanian soldiers were deported to Siberia. They stole everything and imposed severe food rations and a big famine began all over the country. This went on for over a decade until the Soviet troops finally left. <br /><br />Romanians resent Hitler for signing the pact with Stalin behind their back, but the Nazi soldiers as a whole - no one complained about them. Our elderly always say the Germans were polite and disciplined - and most importantly they respected the Geneva convention! The same cannot be said about the Soviets, or about the Anglo-Saxons who cowardly attacked civilian targets in our country - always from the air, like the cowards that they were.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-1479035037617621542016-01-17T16:17:35.672-08:002016-01-17T16:17:35.672-08:00Bullshit. Germans were under orders not to rape. I...Bullshit. Germans were under orders not to rape. If they were caught raping a woman, they were shot, Nationalist had strict codes of honor as where the jew lead allied communist were encouraged to mass rape. Stepford-On-Hudsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01456324657626547316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-83152895324779751632015-08-05T12:46:30.917-07:002015-08-05T12:46:30.917-07:00Animals...Animals...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-76725752048893233842014-07-24T02:54:06.201-07:002014-07-24T02:54:06.201-07:00None of us know what we would have done, on any si...None of us know what we would have done, on any side. We weren't there. Both the Nazis and the Russians did horrible things, and atrocities were committed against innocents on all sides. It was the worst war in history. I see little point in debating who was the darker culprit, under these circumstances... and I would offer sympathies to any human being who was apart of it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02102853511910309874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-78230790484406195192014-01-23T23:15:14.949-08:002014-01-23T23:15:14.949-08:00The whole subject is blown out of proportion consi...The whole subject is blown out of proportion considering true facts of WWII--most of the so called rape of German women by Soviet soldiers is simple propaganda and had nothing to do with reality. It seems that downplaying Soviet people's role as WWII victors has become a very important agenda for some western circles. Clearly, some people are very interested in demonizing Soviet soldiers with every possible mean available to them--it is heavily sponsored area and most of it is horrifying lye. Anyone who pays close attention to their arguments can identify that there is NO solid evidence what so ever to support their claims. Just saying that "something" happened does not mean that it actually happened, yet the intentional smearing is going on and on. How much credibility is there in all of this "made by order" propaganda? Knowing where "the legs" are growing from -- I would have to say NONE. <br />Speaking of the TRUTH...Are any of you aware that in 1964 there was an announced search for the German girl who was saved by Russian soldier Nikolay Masalov in Berlin (he is the prototype of the soldier from Treptower park monument). The "look for the girl" was announced in German newspaper "Junge Welt", and 198 German women came forward claiming that they were "the girl" who was saved by a Russian soldier in Berlin. However, even though they were all saved by various Russian soldiers (some of whom died while saving those children), none of those ladies happened to be "the real girl". Please feel free to verify the facts-- it is all credible. Why am I typing this? Simply to illustrate reality of who were the monsters and who were the heroes. Considering that Fascists are responsible for deaths of 50 millions Soviet people (dead and unborn)...and, yet, Russian soldiers were saving German children....So, who are the real monsters??? Ask yourself what is the truth before getting all emotional about false claims.<br />On the other hand, are you aware, that both, American and French soldiers raped German women? I bet not. And why no one talks about that? Ask yourself WHY? "Recorded" rapes by American soldiers went unpunished if they were white, but...that being said, black American soldiers were executed for the rape of German women (do not be surprised...it was still time of segregation in USA). As to lovely French army, well, they have had "Moroccan grenadiers" (African troopers), and there is a horrific record of them mass raping over 300 German women in underground metro station, and that was going on for days. So, why NO ONE talks about that? <br />So, lets not kid ourselves with fiction predatory accusations toward Soviet Army. One thing is real, if there is a massive propaganda of such type -- there is an "interested side" who manipulates... <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17781058067679863357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-73781573282191150832014-01-13T10:01:48.420-08:002014-01-13T10:01:48.420-08:00This issue will be debated for any decades to come...This issue will be debated for any decades to come. Some comments are rather simplistic and lack any form of intellectual thought or historical accuracy. It is truly amazing how many posters base their "historic" views based on conjecture, emotion and ignorance. Some people are just not comfortable with the actual facts that are based on scientific research methods, and are irrefutable. We can all agree that during armed conflict, atrocities occur indiscriminately, regardless of origin. It is true that during desperate times, people behave differently, for the most part, than they would in a society governed by codes of conduct, including, but not limited to religion, criminal/civil law, community standards to list but a few of mechanisms of a civilized society that demands self-control and regulation. It's important to remember to not paint every person with the same brush. We are each individuals with the capacity to think and form our own opinions separate from the State or Church, and any other firmly entrenched institution. We have the choice to listen to inner voice (conscience mind), or ignore our "moral compass", and follow the herd of sheep. More often than not, the human species is often it's own worst enemy. You don't need to point out the cruelty of the Second World War to make your point. Most people get it. Better yet, look around you TODAY!!! The entire planet is in a frantic race to the bottom. As the old saying goes, "Those that do not learn from history are bound to repeat it". Humans have a very short attention span, and lack the capacity to think in a linear pattern. We are conditioned to look for the "quick fix", rather than long term and sustainable solutions, especially on a global scale. What we will witness is the de-evolution of the human race in the decades to come. Unfortunately, humankind will not take the appropriate action before we implode as a "civilized" population. There is a slow and systemic erosion of human rights across the planet, even in so-called democratic states. It is so subtle that most "sheep" don't even notice the change. I'm not paranoid, just a realist who has been paying attention. I don't want to "excite" the dooms day prepers, they are already converted to the notion of an "any-day-now" apocalypse. Well, enough of the daily rant. I will leave you all with this famous quote: " Absolute power corrupts absolutely". Remember that on voting day! And for sake of your future, get out and vote!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-68503737205676591352013-11-06T06:39:42.071-08:002013-11-06T06:39:42.071-08:00there are comments here who stick disgust. the rap...there are comments here who stick disgust. the rape of women and children is a heinous crime, but there are people here who defendim it just because they were German. There are people who are authentic monsters.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02545239722698185950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-89100099570930819942013-10-09T04:36:29.022-07:002013-10-09T04:36:29.022-07:00I am not German nor Russian, but ww2 is most inter...I am not German nor Russian, but ww2 is most interesting subject to me.<br />I have watched many ww2 movies also read many books. <br />In my opinion the rape on German women after war is outcome of 6 years of ww2 in Europe, Hitlers aggression , propaganda by Nazi,blind faith of Germans on Hitler and his Nazi party.<br />what is happened is very cruel and unforgiven. we all should learn lesson from this and never to repeat this history . be a good civilized human being ,god bless us all Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-24840491464484120212013-03-26T12:46:20.746-07:002013-03-26T12:46:20.746-07:00Says the guys that lost the first war in Afghanist...Says the guys that lost the first war in Afghanistan against the same people. And was that why your God/Comrade Stalin begged repeatedly for the Allies to open a Western Front, and ordered US forces to halt short of Berlin and let the Russians take it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-19110675846583292402013-03-16T17:56:14.538-07:002013-03-16T17:56:14.538-07:00i am from greece and i am an christian orthodox th...i am from greece and i am an christian orthodox these crimes are the actions of hell on earth the only thing that i can say is that things like that are happening today take a look at night when boys and girls sale their bodies for a few euros in order to buy drugs and get raped by our fellow people every night again and again war is not the reason of those rape the only reason is that they had the freedom to do itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-9254477821435478442013-03-12T08:10:13.704-07:002013-03-12T08:10:13.704-07:00Anyone who is spewing hate towards any nationality...Anyone who is spewing hate towards any nationality or country is no different from people who start wars which are usually based on the idea that some nations are better then others.<br /><br />I don't think one can find a war in the history of wars where rape did not happen.<br /><br />The only way to stop history from repeating itself is to stop the hateful ideas that some nationalities and countries are better then others. <br /><br />Blame some people over others is what leads to future wars.<br /><br />The lesson that can be learned here is war brings out the worst in people.<br /><br />You can only judge others if you have been in their shoes. Read individual accounts by German and Russian soldiers and you will learn that most of them were fighting for the countries and families and were manipulated by their leaders, and deserve credit for their bravery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-38577330915216402702013-02-03T18:49:12.491-08:002013-02-03T18:49:12.491-08:00BunBun4life Face the facts the Russian men for th...BunBun4life Face the facts the Russian men for the most part (not all but most) are drunken idiots even today and that's why Russian women try to marry western men, just look on the internet. In ww2 I'm sure they were worse living in as backward country as the USSR was at that time, 2 to 3 million sounds way more accurate than 150k.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-78828295563914648482013-01-06T04:43:55.578-08:002013-01-06T04:43:55.578-08:00PREVIOUS QUOTE (by anonymous coward) May 13, 2011...PREVIOUS QUOTE (by anonymous coward) May 13, 2011 3:18 PM Anonymous said... <br />Where photographs of victims? Why are only some pictures, reminiscent of Nazi propaganda?<br /><br />Beaver interviewed victims of rape? No? From then data about 1.5 million? Why not 3 million, or 1.280 thousand?<br /><br />Where did Beevor statistics? Or is this not a story but a continuation of propaganda?<br /><br />Where evidence not 2-3 women, but at least 150-200 thousand documented evidence of the raped women of these millions?<br /><br /><br />#1 WHY NO PICTURES? Are you insane? Who would take those pictures? Are you retarded?<br /><br />Secondly, let's flip it around. Everything you said, but in regards to the jews, not german rape victims. I've heard exactly the same arguments, and quite frankly, the 'lie of 6 million' backs evidence that the number is grossly exaggerated looks solid. You're just a pathetic rape apologist.BunBun4lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13000914304158594556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-41771089581252483772012-11-12T22:55:48.697-08:002012-11-12T22:55:48.697-08:00It's true that war brings out the savagery of ...It's true that war brings out the savagery of base primal behavior, where humans do what they did as uncivilized animals. It is ugly, and mean, and the rules of "civilization" don't apply. What would a pack of dogs do? They would rape and kill. They would eat each other if they were desperately hungry. Raping is part of almost any war. Sometimes it is dressed up to look like prostitution, but it's still basic raping. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-6031643489511437022012-11-12T22:50:15.104-08:002012-11-12T22:50:15.104-08:00It is very amazing to see how humans who were bake...It is very amazing to see how humans who were bakers, farmers, bankers, school teachers and plumbers who were married, had kids, went to church on Sunday, were part of a small community where very small crimes were punished severely ...... can descend into that dark place where they can kill, rape, and torture without shame or remorse. Humans are amazing creatures. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-48333547753167401852012-10-02T14:56:05.416-07:002012-10-02T14:56:05.416-07:00What comes around goes around. Nazi Germany raped,...What comes around goes around. Nazi Germany raped, killed and plundered first. Of course they get payment back with the same currency. Complaining about the "poor german women" beeing raped is simply moral lazyness.<br /><br />If no mutual agreement exist (THAT WORKS IN PRACTICE AS WELL), the only justice is "An eye for an eye.."<br /><br />A flawed justice is better than no justice. It might be tragic to say but the comcept of fairness and justice weights heavier than life, death and the right to your own body.Firestatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120576317421542225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-3083563634034161792012-07-11T01:22:27.217-07:002012-07-11T01:22:27.217-07:00I'm surprised soldiers would rape any women in...I'm surprised soldiers would rape any women in contemporary warzones given the plethora of whorehouses made available to soldiers in need of busting a nut. Seriously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-20952316670140837672012-06-08T18:48:52.670-07:002012-06-08T18:48:52.670-07:00I do not know if this is true, I was not there, I ...I do not know if this is true, I was not there, I cannot comment. No doubt it would have happened somewhere as that is the nature of uncivilised people, unfortunately there are way too many uncivilised people worldwide for my liking. War is a terrible thing and as I have said many a time, the world was doomed from the point the idea of the weapon was conceived. The difference between man and animal is morality and the strength and conviction of those morals. Anyone who breaks any of the 10 sins is a criminal and is not civilised, regardless of what they have been through or where they are from, there is no excuse. I am not religious, but I do believe in the basis of most religions, treat others how you wish to be treated. If everyone did this, the world would would be a wonderful place to live.peksy86noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-950176168566723147.post-80520720963983418262012-06-06T14:35:36.024-07:002012-06-06T14:35:36.024-07:00I think too many of us choose to blame single coun...I think too many of us choose to blame single countries and nationalites with a general responsibility for the atrocities in war. As if proving that one country behaved shamefully should somehow overshadow and dismiss the awful behavior of another. The truth is, no-body on this forum was around to see the horror of WW2, yet they are able to form these convictions as if they have experienced the violence firsthand. I think we need to look at history as a complete picture, with consideration for ALL of the atrocity, and tack it on not as another condemnation of one single country and its people, rather as a blemish of mankind itself and the horrible things we are capable of. This is unfortunately why wars begin. Because everyone needs to be separate and clearly defined as something they can hold onto. Because without being White, Black, Asian, Latino, Middle-Eastern, a soldier, a banker, a nurse, a cop, a salesman, Christian, Catholic, Muslim, Hindu, Atheist, Republican, Democrat, poor, rich, a son, a father, a mother, a daughter, a lover, what the hell are you? Ask yourself that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com